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  PIMO GB members?

  by Half banana in

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  the gb individuals are chosen not by holy spirit as we well know but by being selected for one quality only, that of implaccable loyalty to the watchtower organisation.. to be up there requires the fixation that the org is being used by god -- even though now in the small print they claim they are not divinely guided -- what a laugh, what a puzzle?.

  the more i watch their antics the more implausible they seem.

  their function: to persuade as many people as possible to conform to their own whacky beliefs.. most jws eventually leave the fold, only one third remain as we understand, so will any of the gb become pimo?.

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  Bungi Bill

  Raymond Franz was asked to resign from the Governing Body, after being formally questioned in May of 1980. This "questioning" was part of the general witch hunt over apostasy that was being conducted in Bethel during those first few months of that same year.

  The fact that he was being "questioned" over apostasy, and that this questioning led to his resignation (read "resign or get the bullet!") from the GB would strongly suggest to me that he had indeed been mentally somewhere else whilst still physically present on the Governing Body!
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  Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so much is said regarding men , in a negative way.

  shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.

  men should be less masculine.

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  Bungi Bill

  Hi once again, LUHE,

  There is certainly no real issue with two boys just "rough housing" about, as you say.

  Some of these Australian feminists are something else! Where I work, we share a staff room with a more extreme example of this type, who can hardly open her mouth without uttering some male-bashing remark.

  With upwards of a dozen men sitting at the table with her, it has led to a number of very interesting lunchtime discussions. I know that the term "bigot" gets some adverse publicity on this site, but it accurately describes her attitudes. If she or somebody like her wrote the script for that advertisement, then I think I know where you are coming from!
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  Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so much is said regarding men , in a negative way.

  shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.

  men should be less masculine.

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  Bungi Bill

  Hi LUHE,

  We are here talking about behaviours that can easily get somebody injured, or worse.

  What Gillette is putting across doesn't seem to be that much different from the Anti-Family Violence campaign being recently run on New Zealand TV. Whether it is a company who manufactures sharp razor blades, soft toilet tissue - or any item in between those - it is pleasing to see that at least somebody is taking up the case.

  Boys will indeed be boys, and there are many legitimate outlets for that - with the boxing ring and the rugby field coming immediately to mind. There, at least, the participants are all like minded and fairly evenly matched. (Rough sports also offer the advantage of teaching boys what it feels like to be on the receiving end. Anybody can dish it out; it is a real measure of toughness to be able to take it, too!)

  Regarding a "Gillette in Reverse" scenario, aren't you assuming a little bit too much in guessing how I would react to that - me being somebody you have never met, and do not know? Bullying can take many different forms, some far more subtle than others, and women tend to excel at the more subtle forms of bullying. Bloody hell - I grew up with two sisters, then reared two daughters. I think I can speak from some experience about the matter of female bullying.

  If you assume that I am going to defend that sort of behaviour, then you are definitely assuming too much!
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  Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so much is said regarding men , in a negative way.

  shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.

  men should be less masculine.

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  Bungi Bill

  It is a little hard to comprehend the reaction of many to the Gillette advertisement's anti-bullying and anti- harrassment of women message.

  There is nothing "manly" about beating up a weaker opponent. As we would have been told while growing up: "Go pick on someone your own size".
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  If you had to

  by rolliepollie in

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  2. beliefs

  if you had to follow one religion, what would it be and why?.

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  Bungi Bill

  The Reverend Harley Davidson's Church of the Righteous Hog.

  Seriously, what a hell of a choice to present a person with. I reckon I would shoot myself first!
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  Why did One of Jewish Cultures Most Important (but not named in the Bible) Influences Die?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  who is that influence?

  why alexander the great, of course.

  why was he such an important influence on the development of judaism (and later on an influence on early christianity)?.

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  Bungi Bill

  One other notable person who is thought to have suffered GBS was Franklin Roosevelt.

  At the time, FDR was diagnosed as having polio. However, it is now thought more likely that what left him paralysed from the waist down was Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

  Of course, like Alexander the Great, nobody will ever know for sure. The only way to have been certain that Roosevelt's illness was polio would have been for a sample of his spinal fluid to have been tested. That was never done - and of course, never will be done!
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  Anyone know of elders talking private KH matters to wifes?

  by Tobyjones262 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i knew of several elders who would tell their wife's everything that happened in a committee meeting.

  he is still and elder and very old but i doubt he has changed.

  we used to call him.

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  Bungi Bill

  None of this is in any way surprising.

  The majority of the human species is born with a certain genetic defect, consisting of a mechanical interlock between the ear drum and the tongue. The slightest sound striking the ear drum automatically causes the tongue to flap about.

  This genetic trait is particularly noticeable in those types who are drawn to the JW religion!
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  What Are Your Rights?

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  rights seem to be everywhere nowadays.

  say hello to someone in the wrong way and you've violated 101 of their human rights.

  people imagine they have the right to all sorts of things - food, healthcare, housing, internet ... so many things are labelled basic rights and then you get onto their human rights - a favourite of the do-nothing bodies such as the un to declare.

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  Bungi Bill

  Pretty much everything else is determined by who has the more effective weapon.

  As my late father was wont to say "You are free to do as you are told!"
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  "This system will probably be over in about 5 years"

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't think i shared this story yet, it's strange and although i did a little detective work trying to figure out who said what and when i never found out much, big surprise, jehovah's witnesses love their secrets as we all know... but i thought other posters might find this interesting both in and of itself, because of what an elder told me one sunday back in 2011, and because of what it could imply as to high-ranking jehovah's witnesses prophesying the date of armageddon.

  specific dates went out the window in 1975, although governing body helper ken flodin hinted at 2040 in a talk uploaded to jw.org a couple years back, and the governing body hinted at 2034 in a watchtower back in the 90s.

  but it might be, just might, that more specific date-setting still goes on behind closed doors in certain circuits.... so after i went to "meetings" and talked to witnesses for a couple years at a rural congregation in the eastern united states an elder pulled me aside one service into the vestibule at the hall, in other words, into a private area where no one would overhear us.

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  Nothing like wanting to have it both ways!

  In the early 1980s, when the WTS began another campaign to promote "pioneering", the Circuit Overseer posed the question "Can you see this system lasting another ten years?" His next sentence, though, carried the proviso "Please do not say the Circuit Overseer said Armegeddon was coming in less than ten years".

  Bloody hell!
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  Did you actually read the bible end to end?

  by Ultimate Axiom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my ten years as a witness i never read the whole bible end to end, what with four magazines a month, the book study, meetings and talk preparations, there just wasn’t the time.

  i knew all the important references to ‘prove’ the various jw doctrines, and the cherry picked chapters that help foster the idea that it’s a good book, but that’s not reading it.

  well after nearly forty years out, i decided i would do it.

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  Bungi Bill

  I figured that as we were supposed to be offering the public "free" home bible studies, one ought to at least have read the thing from cover to cover. It was hard going, and I ended up using the New English Version. This at least is laid out like a book, instead of being broken up into individual verses. For me, that made it a little easier to follow!

  The results, though, were disappointing - although I now realise that I had completely unrealistic expectations about what it was going to achieve. Somehow, I imagined reading the bible was going to be a mind-altering experience of some kind!